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Dawn's picture
Dawn

If you have changed the hinges on any bathroom/kitchen cabinets, I'd love to hear about your choices and how that went. I'm in the process of doing this for my main bathroom and kitchen, as I am wanting to paint cabinets in both rooms, and it is a task I am finding most frustrating.

First, the bathroom: Currently there are ornately designed small hinges on the doors in shiny gold that have been painted over at least once in a creamy white. I plan to keep them the same style, to keep things simple in my budget reno, so I found some that should fit the holes as the current exposed hinges have. (there is a lip and inset, both 3/8") I find some online, made by Amerock in a satin nickel, and decide to go with non-self-closing as I have now because they look better than the self closing. From there, it goes like this:

1. Visit Home Depot, get directed to aisle 16. There is only ONE hinge in the size I need, and it's the self-closing one. I ask for more, I'm told "this is all we have". In disbelief, I reconfirm with sales associate that I'm out of luck, and I leave store. (sales clerk doesn't understand my problem since the ONE hinge comes in 5 different finishes and he seems to think that is a good selection)

2. Father-in-law is over and I share details of my trip to HD. He says that's crazy-there are hundreds of hinges to choose from. He tells me I should have visited the kitchen cabinet display area.

3. I call HD to further enquire about the hinges I want. Once again I am told they only carry the one. I press a bit about having it special ordered, and I'm offered a transfer to the Order Desk, which I accept. Then I got dial tone. (got cut off)

4. I call HD again and ask at the Order Desk if I can order the Amerock Hinge I want. It's a bust, as the part number is useless to them-they require a Home Depot 'skew' number, which I do not have.

5. I contact the good people at Amerock asking for assistance in purchasing their product. I am told HD is only allowed to carry some of their stock, and that I can special order it through Home Hardware only.

6. I call Home Hardware, and have the same problem as I did with HD-they need a Home Hardware 'skew' number in order to order it in.

7. I call the good people at Amerock again and ask for help. They tell me the product is new, and that Home Hardware can just call to get the number they need to order it in since it is not in their system yet.

8. I call Home Hardware again, and make another attempt with the infor of #7 above. The sales associate will call me back.

9. I get the call from the sales associate, and it can't be done. Since the people at Amerock said the number likely won't be in the HH system until about Feb. 1st, I'm going to have to try again then.

Now for the kitchen cabinets: I'd be out of my mind to go through the above again for the kitchen, as it isn't as simple as it is supposed to be to get hinges in the same style. Besides, it would be a worse nightmare since the hinge size is with a 3/8" lip and a 5/8" inset, which I'm told is hard (ok harder) to find. Lastly, since my kitchen cabinets are kind of detailed, hidden hinges would make them less busy-looking. If you have installed hidden hinges and can recommend the ones you used, please share. I'm hoping to get some that can be installed with just screws, not the kind that require a circular or similar piece or wood drilled out of the door, if you know what I mean.

I'll post the bathroom hinge choices below. The first picture is the non-self-closing one I think looks nicer. The second one is the self-closing one that is in stores.

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Dawn's picture
Dawn

The pictures Armstrong's vinyl flooring. The formica for inside the cabinets will definitely be white.

jan in van's picture
jan in van

I know I used that for something. I've removed MacTac from shelves and windows. They were both big jobs. I know I found the answer on the internet but I just couldn't find it again when I looked today. You sure need the right search words. I used a razor blade scraper and 3" drywall trowel. Somehow I think DH had the recommended solvent in his cupboard. Wish I could remember for you.

Personally I wouldn't go with the charcoal even though I like it. I think once it's inside the cupboards you will find it really dark.

lily's picture
lily

from the inside of your cabinets. My friend was telling me just the other day she purchased a product called GOO and it worked amazing.
I love your choices so far. Keep us posted!

Dawn's picture
Dawn

I will. Currently I'm working on the insides of the cabinets first: have some nasty vinyl shelf liner like MacTack that comes up easily with a blowdryer but leaves horrible sticky glue! I used some citrus stuff instead of solvent, and even that was a headache that left things still gummy. The new plan is to order white formica and have my FIL line the inside shelves with it-he's the formica expert!

I have the same cabinet style in my tiny ensuite bathroom, and I too was thinking dark would be nice to try. I might get the same vinyl flooring, different colour. It's Armstrong Stoney Creek sheet vinyl. I got the almond for the main bathroom, but I love the dark Granite colour. DH didn't like it for the main bathroom but I think he'd be onboard with it for the ensuite. I'm just thinking out loud...no decisions have been made yet but the Charcoal is really nice.

lily's picture
lily

post pictures when your finished. Your hinges and cupboards look just like mine and I was thinking about painting them a dark chocolate brown (almost black) so I really want to see your finished product...cant wait!!

Dawn's picture
Dawn

Success! The ones I ordered from Lee Valley have arrived, and they will fit. On to painting that bathroom cabinet now.....as soon as I find the time. We've spent forever on this one, doing a little at a time.

GToronto's picture
GToronto

Have you taken a look at Richelieu, I believe they also supply to HD and have a pretty large catalogue online. They have over 25 locations across Canada, maybe they'll have something that you like.

newfie's picture
newfie

I am having the same dilemmia right now. I so badly want hidden hinges but have been told that it would mean new doors and that the boxes are made different when you use european hinges. I have bought some nickel hinges and handles to replace the brass, but It is still not I am looking for. I am lost.

Dawn's picture
Dawn

Thanks for all the helpful posts. I placed an order with Lee Valley for the nickel ones in the picture below. They are a little fancier than I wanted, with decorative finials, and I will be filling holes on the cabinet fronts since these ones have screws that are mounted inside. Installing them will make me crazy so I'll be asking my FIL for a hand.

I gave up on the Amerok ones.

StepfordWife#1's picture
StepfordWife#1

hinges from Lee Valley Tools as they have a vast variety.

sinnes's picture
sinnes

I was just looking at hinges (online) last night. Our plan is to paint the kitchen cabinets and replace the hinges and handles in the summer. I guess I never really paid all that much attention to the different types of hinges before because I never realised how many there were until last night.
These are the hinges I have in my kitchen now. I have no idea what kind they are but I guess I'll just take one with me to the store when we buy new ones in brushed nickel.
Does anyone know how much work it would be to replace them with the european hinges? Since they mount on the inside of the cabinet, I'd probably have to fill the old holes from the hinges mounted on the outside eh? I wonder if that would look alright.

Dawn... when we moved into our house almost 2 years ago, I replaced all of the hinges in both bathrooms and had those exact ones you have. I just took one to the store with me and bought these brushed nickel ones; instant update!

Dawn's picture
Dawn

The european hinges are looking good as a choice for my kitchen cabinets, so long as I don't have to chisel anything out ot the doors for them to fit. (saw some hinges like that, don't want those-too much work :hairpull: )

Thanks!

Mrs.Modern's picture
Mrs.Modern

How about a european hinge. That is what is on all of the cupboards in my house. They go on the inside and adjust up, down, left and right by simply tightening the screws. I would imagine they would be awfully easy to find as all the home builders are using them these days. I also have such trouble at HD. We bought our garage door opener from them and when we asked about installation we were told, by the manager, "We don't install garage door openers". We had to take him by the hand and show him the little sign that proudly decalred that they did in fact do installations. After two weeks of wainting we finally called another company to come out and do it for us. The new company was the one that HD used and they informed us that HD loses a lot of installation orders and they are simply never called to make the installation. Idiots!

Dawn's picture
Dawn

I really can't keep the old ones. They are just too fancy for the look I'm going for. My cabinets are rather dated and I'm updating them the least expensive way: paint and new hardware.

Excuse the mess in the counter shot below. I took it when I got the urge to skin the counter. :D

reno-vator's picture
reno-vator

why don't you keep the ones you've got, just clean them and spray-paint them ????

What a run-around - I almost lived at Home Depot during our reno, and there was always something - went in one day, looked at sliding closet doors, got a price on paintable, went in 2 days later to order it, guy says doesn't come in paintable !!!!! :hairpull:

Have had some good esperiences, too - was in one day order all the paint 6 or seven rooms woth, and the primer, and the trim stuff, and the rep from ICI was there and said it was going on sale, $5 off, tomorrow ... so I took my list and went back the next day ! saved about $70 that day alone

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