okay i just thought i would ask, not that the guilty party or parties will im sure admit....and it would have to be someone from this forum......did you recall the comment written on Hgtv site....janetc is a wart on foxxy's butt, how pathetic and immature is that.....what the heck kind of behaviour is that? when are you guilty ones ever know when enough is enough.....i know it had to come from here as im only known on this site by janetc......no need to respond, maybe someday you all may come to your senses and grow up! Needless to say your words are disgusting.....as for the members who support these people and thier wrong doings should be ashamed too....sorry to have to bring this forward publicly but certain people had no problem being a coward and saying this on another open forum
smiles
janetc
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No need for aplogies, in fact I feel bad that you felt you needed to explain yourself. I get why you felt that way though. If you have resolved this with Janetc then it really has nothing to do with the rest of us.
I have seen one reference to you in another forum. However, it was an accusation to another member about having posted something nasty about you. The alleged nasty comment is nowhere to be found on that forum.
What I find really strange and difficult to believe is that the member accused of being nasty towards you would have been Jenjen... that seems really out of character for Jenjen - there's always a possibility the nasty post never existed and someone is having fun at other's expense....
here's the post if you don't believe me...
[url]http://www.styleathome.com/StyleAtHome/client/en/Forum/m.asp?m=4993&p=1&tmode=1[/url]
there's obviously a lot more going on here than what is visible on the surface...
i'm not going to comment on anything else other than this...yes i was accused of ''attacking'' Janet...on the S@H forum...by someone from here using another user name over there....i confronted that person and asked to see the proof of where and when i attacked Janet...as i have a right to see and know...proof was never given to me...which is fine cuz i know i have never attacked Janet....i also pm'd Janet about that...i was going to post a thread about it but i decided against that and figured the best way to ask Janet was in pm form...janet and i discussed the matter...and janet is not aware of anytime where i have attacked her...nor am i ....i know you are gone now Paul....but thank you for your words i appreciate it...i am the friendlest person you could ever meet...sure i have a big mouth and 99.9% of the time don't know when to keep it shut...but lately i have found that around here ...it's best to just stay out of everything...i just wanted to make everyone aware about the accusation against me about attacking janet...and to let you know proof was never given and the issue was taken care of between janet and I in a private manner
Well as they say, if you don't like it, go back to where you came? :p
This was really unnecessary, I think you own the forum an apology.
Let's just all have a group hug now, shall we ;)
Hmmm, interesting proposal, coming from one of the few guys around here :D :D .
But I couldn't agree more about the voice of reason :) .
Now there is a voice of reason. If you read my post there, I did say SOME ( excluding any form of generalization ). We all have our opinions and athough we might not agree with what someone says, we have a duty to respect that and be civil to one another.
Let's just all have a group hug now, shall we ;)
Hey, let's not get into a debate about our cultural differences and who came here first. One can go back into history and blame the "English" for driving the Acadians out of Nova Scotia, just as quickly. But that's just taking this into a direction that we probably don't want to go. We all know our history, and we can't lump everyone in the same categories. Canadians are good people, but we're not unlike anyone else, we can all have an attitude, or hold grudges, or be angry, or whatever. That's human nature, not Canadian nature. It doesn't paint an accurate picture of the population in general. So, can we NOT throw stones just to make a brownie point. Please.
I think the moderator ought to just lock this thread, and we move on, and maybe through other threads, let's all try to make peace. Laugh at our foibles, and just move on... we don't have to be friends, but can we all just at the very least respect each person's contribution to this forum. It's a "community" afterall, not a one person driven board. I think we have all learned that we're not all going to get along. But for the betterment of this forum, now and in the future, can we all try to let this go. Just this one time, and move forward.
Well as they say, if you don't like it, go back to where you came? :p
On the contrary, far from it, just relating to some of the things the previous poster said. Well if we all had to follow your analogy there, then am sure the NATIVES ( aboriginees and first nation folks ), will be more than happy to see everyone leave, won't you say, especially with the way they are being treated? ;)
Afterall....we all came from somewhere, even if you were born here. :D
So now this has become a Canadian bashing thread? :D MY, my, my.
Well as they say, if you don't like it, go back to where you came? :p
That seem to be a myth. Most Brits think that too, until they get here, and come across some nasty pieces of work. :rolleyes: Most People not saying PLEASE, THANK YOU et al. :eek:
You get a few that try to come over as all high and mighty, makes me laugh really, because I know what class is coming over from the UK, and that is not what they portray.
I am not an alias of any sort. As I mentioned b4 I have been a long time reader and only joined recently. During my stay in the US for the last few years I've heard many say Canadians are very friendly and peaceful people. The behavior on this forum is a disgrace to that. I say things as they are and don't like to sugar coat things so it's too bad for you or anyone else who may have a problem with that.
Now you are acting like a NINCOMPOOP :rolleyes: I have only been in the country 2yrs, from the UK, and only found this forum recently, so how could I have been around before.
I don't know any of you lot, and I don't see how my posts and threads were of the attacking nature, apart from the ones from people that have directed their posts at me.
Now am waiting for you to lists those half a dozen people that have said my posts have infuriated them. Am guessing them have told you this personally, and it's not a figment of your small imagination?
It also doesn't take one much time on this forum to see that many expend much negative energy toward a member named Aan.
Glaswegian is pretty new and has managed to make snarky comments and offend half a dozen or so people and make insinuations about several members which leads me to think that this person has been around longer than the 100+ posts under his belt.
There are countless Guests online here at any given time. Some of us started out that way - read the nonsense and are compelled to weigh in when the scales are tilted heavily to one side. I did just that. I have also tried to post about design but I guess that will undoubtedly offend you as well.
As was pointed out by another member - why not hit the ignore button if my comments offend you so.
I was in numerous threads that were locked? I only just joined the forum. Please don't mistake me for someone else, it's not big and it's not clever to do so :rolleyes:
If you search Smoodgie2 you will find that Smoodgie2 used to be Smoodgie (no 2). Apparently this person was banned before.
Stop using Aan as your whipping post. It is obvious that Janetc was WAY out of line starting this post that has absolutely NO PLACE on this forum. That's the simple truth.
People were not using fake names before? :eek: Where were you? Shi- disturbing by alias has been a favorite on this site since at least May 2004. I am able to recite a long list of short-lived pseudonyms, which grew even today (Design_Girl).
Of course we all have noticed that you hate redheron and feel justified in your remarks against her. I don't agree, as you know. I feel as justified in my affection and appreciation for her.
I do agree it has gotten worse here. It is like an avalanche that started with a snowflake, once upon a time ago. We all seem to have become more tolerant of adversity. More and more members participate. Perhaps "eyes wide open" is not the ideal gaze. If we all closed our eyes, here and there, the chill might melt.
However, since your return, your brand new attitude here, and elsewhere, takes nasty to a new height. You are furious at me, when all I did was say your red was "pinkish". You complained about cmm looking for redheron's advice on another forum. You have snapped at many here lately. Now you are pointing "the alias finger".
Bring back Smoodgie1.
Hahahhahaha!!!! Do you seriously think I'm offended by someone telling me my red looks pinkish?!?!?!
Go ahead and think what you want and twist things around to make me look bad. I thought that it would be fun coming back here, once H&H finally got rid of the biggest problem on the boards. But nothing has changed -- in fact, things are worse now than they ever were. At least before, people weren't using fake names to hide themselves and their agendas.
As I told AAN earlier, go and take a look at my posts and see just how often I've said anything negative to anyone. And then take a look at who my negative posts are directed towards and why.
Smoodgie2 is just the same as Smoodgie1 -- only her eyes are open a little wider now than they were before.
When you were banned it was a huge shock to everyone. Though you did slam redheron, worse had been said about others, by others, many times before and since. So, your ban remains a mystery to all.
However, since your return, your brand new attitude here, and elsewhere, takes nasty to a new height. You are furious at me, when all I did was say your red was "pinkish". You complained about cmm looking for redheron's advice on another forum. You have snapped at many here lately. Now you are pointing "the alias finger".
Bring back Smoodgie1.
If you search Smoodgie2 you will find that Smoodgie2 used to be Smoodgie (no 2). Apparently this person was banned before.
Stop using Aan as your whipping post. It is obvious that Janetc was WAY out of line starting this post that has absolutely NO PLACE on this forum. That's the simple truth.
Yes, Smoodgie2 used to be Smoodgie -- unlike you, Galbraith, I'm not hiding behind an alias. And I wasn't "apparently" banned before -- you know exactly why I was banned and who had me banned.
It's good to see that others here aren't fooled by your new name -- your same old nasty attitude gives you away.
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the posts on the site in question tonight (I saw the posts before deletion ) read very similar to the posts on the Style forum right after some members here were so unhappy with this site and went off to vent.......some even commented they would never be back.... but they are here :confused:
p.s. to add: I do not find janets post here is pointing the finger at anyone...I read the post as facts as what was posted somehwere else. I also read how childish the venting was for janet...that's all I read into it... :)
i will take the time out to respond to your post, for jenjens sake, you are correct she has never said anything nasty about me or towards me and she and i have cleared that up privately. Jenjen has always been very respectful towards me and has given me many laughs....and so true, the comments that were posted at the hgtv site could have been anyone, however in this case it was said as i did read it myself.... i will never know and that is why i never pointed fingers or said names.....again like i said, i should have just bit my tongue or sucked it back instead of pushing the send button
thank you pauld
smiles
janetc
I immediately interpreted "certain people" to mean Aan or Redheron. I also interpreted "supporters" to mean me (though I am alternatively a lackey or syncophant, according to another site) and others.
Who else here has been accused of having "supporters"? If janetc had merely reported the "bad post" that was on the other site, absent these references, I would not have jumped to this conclusion. Janetc, by her first post on this thread, obviously intended to point the finger and only the hopeful naive or disingenuous would say otherwise.
We are indeed all human beings with feelings. Including redheron and Aan. If you all imagine they are laughing this off, you are dead wrong.
I have to agree with Design_Girl, this forum has got out of hand. It's really convenient of Janetc to say something about another member was on another forum but it's been deleted. Yeah, whatever -- get over it.
This so petty. Many of you are long time members (and you know who you are) that love to stir the pot, why not put your money where your mouths are and show us some of your actual decorating / design work instead of behaving like teen drama queens.
May be you need to go out and rent "Mean Girls' or better yet go to the library and get "Queen Bees and Wannabees".
I never, repeat, never get involved in these little spats that go on here as I find them quite immature and quite frankly, completely unecessary. I find that the cattiness and b*tchiness is along the lines of an old Melrose Place episode and it's getting completely played out.
However, I find myself compelled to comment here as when I read janetc's initial post I saw no indication whatsoever of her pointing fingers to anyone in particular. Yeah, sure, it's easy to say ignore it, but think about it. Some people are more sensitive than others and honestly, I think my feelings would be kind of hurt too, if people that know nothing about me, other than what I might write on a forum, found it necessary to resort to childish activities like glorified name calling.
Come on, guys, there are far more important things in life than this forum. Let's remember that at the end of the day, we are all human beings and as such, deserve to be treated with dignity and respect.
there was no insinuation, wording, etc. in Janetc's post at all that would lead directly to you as there could well have been a few people who would have done such a thing. Meanwhile you took it on, you're the one who started flailing and bringing things up, and that's why the thread then (as so many others have) becomes directed at you. The 'duth protest too much' if you will. Meanwhile it beats me why you would feel so pressured to defend yourself against something that didn't even mention you in any way, shape, or form. Such is life so often with your posts though.
As for changing my opinion of you, I have no opinion of you other than being totally tired of the insulting posts I've mentioned (and that have been mentioned to you numerous times by those who have taken the brunt of it and those who don't appreciate it even happening). I know you have a sense of humour but you don't use it here much. You also have some good design sense but that doesn't come out as often as personal attacks anymore. I really don't know what is driving you or what mission you are on but it sure doesn't seem like you are simply coming here to participate in decor discussions anymore and you can bet that does colour my opinion of you now. I am not sure why you feel it necessary to behave this way at all and can't help but wonder why you bother frankly as you don't seem to enjoy yourself, think people are out to get you, and end up in so many situations that others just don't normally get into.
There was a very peaceful period here while you were banned and then you returned and so did the disturbing posts. It wasn't other people who started it either. You get no grief when you just post away, but you have a real talent for putting down and insulting people from out in space sometimes. I can't tell you how many times I've sat here and wondered where a particular comment came from. You aren't being picked on, you bring it on yourself and I am very sorry for your sake and all of ours that you just don't see it because without you getting some awareness, I don't know how to make it stop.
If you really don't see the problem, I'd suggest you get someone who isn't familiar with this forum to read some of your more contentious posts. Plain and simple, no explanations, just ask them to give you their take and impressions and see if they can't explain to you why those posts often press on many people's nerves and get the reaction they do. I have a feeling there are a lot of people here who are no longer quite so patient or willing to let them just ride any more as they are more and more frequent, and the locked threads are a good indication of that. If you don't see how some of your posts are harmful, I really don't know how else to explain it to you.
As for taking credit, it doesn't matter what you or I say. The proof is on the boards unless your posts have been deleted (which some were). The reactions are pretty instant and I think even a bistander can see what happens. Really sometimes I think your only goal is take a strike at someone and then get into an arguement followed by a pity party. It's enough already.
I don't know what else to say or do to try and get through to you to please think before you post something that puts others down, could personally insult, or is anything but good civil discussion.
."......and i cant bring the post here as it was deleted....i dont do things for kicks..............so lets set the record straight on that one"
I missed that. Too bad for Aan.
to clear things up some...janet posted before.
."......and i cant bring the post here as it was deleted....i dont do things for kicks..............so lets set the record straight on that one"
You have already quoted the message. I have found the HGTV forum, on the American HGTV site. I cannot find mention of you. Why will you not post the link or give us some clue as to WHERE on that forum this message may be found? Will you not, at least, permit Aan to try to clear the impression that she posted that message?
I would never "out" someone publicly in real life or online, I think it's best the the party(s) own up to the fact that they used to post on here under other names and be done with it. It's painfully obvious to more than just me.
I would also like to mention that although I admire Michael Jackson's talents as a singer and dancer, it does not mean I admire all aspects of him or his character.
And "Galbraith", I am not easily offended so bring it on. I won't tolerate others being picked on or bullied online or otherwise which is entirely different.
I wouldn't really call it talent or wit and it wasn't a compliment.
You all flatter me so. I only wish I had half that girl's talent and wit.
I had told myself I would stay out of those discussions, but the urge is too strong...
I have seen one reference to you in another forum. However, it was an accusation to another member about having posted something nasty about you. The alleged nasty comment is nowhere to be found on that forum.
What I find really strange and difficult to believe is that the member accused of being nasty towards you would have been Jenjen... that seems really out of character for Jenjen - there's always a possibility the nasty post never existed and someone is having fun at other's expense....
here's the post if you don't believe me...
[url]http://www.styleathome.com/StyleAtHome/client/en/Forum/m.asp?m=4993&p=1&tmode=1[/url]
there's obviously a lot more going on here than what is visible on the surface...